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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Dec 23, 2010 8:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Nominations for best Lovelight

I agree with most of what has been said here
" but less because of Pig's raps and more for the jamming." Cliff
"Pigpen's raps can get repetitive...so I often prefer the shorter Lovelights" LIA
I am sure that Pigpen would have been horrified, if he knew that we would listen, clinically to every night he did this . He might have at least varied his routine more ! Even a great standup comedian would seen less funny if you listened to him night after night , with the same jokes . Thus, for Pig's part, I like the ones where he changes his usually stuff .I think "Lovelight" , more than any of the songs of the period is a "live event", that was best experienced as so , and transfers to the less heated confines of our stereo, fares less well that the other songs .
And yes,"The testosterone fueled "take yo hands out yo pockets!" was right where I was at 17, but not where I am now. " JB
I guess you have to take it in the spirit of the show, and times . In the early days of the sexual revolution, this might have been heady stuff,but it can seem tedious or even embarrassing now . Still, if you "get with it", It can be fun; especially if the jamming is hot ! That 5/23/69 on the new RT really made me pay attention !
I thought I was the only one who blasphemously though some of Pig's raps repetitive, or lame ...

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Dec 23, 2010 10:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Nominations for best Lovelight

On tape, Good Lovin' does hold up better as there's more jamming, less rapping (or more interesting story-rapping)...it wasn't as bound to convention as Lovelight was.

I still find the whole concept of Lovelight pretty inspiring, though, and Pigpen's speeches about just reaching over to the young lady next to you are, well, touching at times.... In spite of Pigpen's frequent odes to sex, it comes across to me as being more about the need for love and release from loneliness...something a bit deeper than just "working undercover with a boar's hog-eye"!

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Dec 23, 2010 12:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Nominations for best Lovelight

Yeah, there is that side to it . Since it could often be the end of a show ( or set ),it has that bit of that celebratory rock n roll/sexual joy that can transcend the personal, and bring everyone together, before sending them off .
In "Good Lovin" , I think, there could be much more interaction with him and the band, when they really messed, it could be unbelievable .
In a side note, because of his macho bravado antics, in these sort of songs , his later songs , like "Operator", and " Two Souls ..." seem more poignant in their humility, to me . Now that I think of it , on some of those "Good Lovin'"s he is not just reaching over his left shoulder', he is kicked out to buy the "Brooklyn Bridge", etc.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Dec 23, 2010 7:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Nominations for best Lovelight

Pig's best Lovelight rap was "play your guitars!"